Thursday, November 04, 2004

And now, presenting the rest of our lives...

What can I say that everyone else hasn't said? Nadda.

I had a semi-coherent, long post assembled yesterday. However, Blogger broke out the tough love and deleted it before I embarrassed myself.

Four more years... I keep thinking,

"How bad could it be? Really?"

And then I remember,

"Oh, shit. He thinks he has a mandate now."

Well, well. While I still find it slightly astounding that half the country looks at this guy and thinks, "That's EXACTLY what I want in my Commander in Chief!", I still think I'm going to live. Moreover, I'm going to live quite happily in the good old U.S. of A. I can, at least, take comfort in the fact that I reside in a city that voted for Kerry four to one over Bush.

That's not an exaggeration - look up the county breakdown for Manhattan, Bronx, Kings, Queens, and Staten Island. NYC is also home to about 20 of the hundred top zipcodes for political fundraising this cycle. I care for the canines of those in the #1, #2, and #3 zipcodes in the nation (Lenox Hill, Yorkville [sort of Upper East Side subdivisions] and the plain old UES itself, 10021, 10022, and 10028, respectively.) Feel alienated in east Bumblefuck? New York welcomes you!

At least a few million folks in this country don't have their heads up their asses.

One more thing, and then I'll be off my soapbox - for a little while, anyway - and back to stories of dogs and dildos and wholesome city family fun.

To all of those voters who decided based on so-called "moral values" (in lieu of national security, terrorism, the crapper economy, and so on and on...) Doesn't our Constitution guarantee us each the latitude to worship or not as we see fit, without hindrance by the state apparatus? What if the majority were Islamic fundamentalists? (not my original thought, BTW. I can't remember where I read it, but it was recently and it was online, if anyone else caught and wants to help me cite the reference.) What if the Islamic fundamentalists out there voted on religious tenets alone, your minority evangelical Christian values be damned? And what if you then had to follow all of their laws, because they felt that their faith must not only be practiced by individuals of the group, but legislated so that ALL are forced to practice Islamic law?

That's a little bit how I feel, as an atheist looking at poll numbers that indicate HUGE support for a ban on homosexual rights, women's rights, rights for non Christians across the board. I don't have issues with whatever religion you want to practice - just don't twist it into legislation that binds me to your God.

The U.S. is majority Christian, you say? I say some things shouldn't be up to the majority.

Remember, up until the 1960's - let's face it, even beyond - the U.S. was also majority racist bigots and misogynists. Don't make it right, and don't mean it can't change.


At 2:54 AM, Blogger Sarah said...

Amen. I feel quite a kinship towards NYC. And I really hate the "majority rule" argument. Minority rights should still be protected, rather than denied.

At 6:43 PM, Blogger SemperSexualis said...

I totally agree about being forced into Christian morals, despite my athiest nature. It rubs me the wrong way in a BIG way. Are there any places where the athiests rule, I wonder?

At 1:44 AM, Blogger Brooks said...

Here's a little thought on majorities.

More people bought Clay Aiken's album last year than last years albums by The Strokes, Sting, REM, Dave Mathews, John Mayer, Linkin Park, Norah Jones, Harry Conick Jr., Coldplay, or to really drive the point home to any Republicans, Toby Kieth. What does this say about majorities and quality in this country? Oh, and just because I'm a masochist, more people use PC's than Macs.

Brooks Blog

At 4:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, I voted for Bush for moral reasons. I believe we have a moral obligation to finish the job in Iraq. You shouldn't make conclusions as to what 'morality' means, especially since the question is so vague.

Second, the electoral college exists to prevent the type of mob/majority rule that you write about.

Third, I'm a lifelong New Yorker, and I can't believe that Bush got 1 in 4 votes here. That's a lot for a Republican! Look at the City Council races from last year, most of the Republicans got around 12%. The fact that Bush could pull off 25% gives me encouragement for my fair city.

At 4:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't mean to post that anonymously (hate blogger comments), that last comment was from me, Karol from

At 10:43 PM, Blogger Katie said...

Hey there, non-anonymous Karol. I appreciate your thoughts - I actually really like it when people who disagree with me make coherent and thoughtful comments rather than just bashing liberals. But, a couple of things -

1) Kerry never said we should leave Iraq. He DID, however, think he could do a better job at finishing it up.

2) Yes, I realize the Electoral College is intended to protect against mob rule. Unfortunately, the result is what I like to call "Iowa rule". Who picked Kerry as the most "electable" Democratic candidate? Iowans. No one else had a chance. I know this has nothing to do with the Electoral College per se, but I think it illustrates my point that a tiny group swaying electoral decisions one way or another is not always a positive thing. I don't see either this or so called "mob rule" as preferable, but it bothers me that voters in Ohio had the opportubity to see both candidates multiple times on any given day, but voters here in New York had very, very few such opportunities. Why is excluding the majority better than letting it win? I know that didn't make so much sense; I'm writing this from my grandmother's house in Maine, where I have been listening to non-stop moaning about the election and general Bush-bashing. You'll forgive me if my brain has grown a bit mushy by now.

3) While you thought of Iraq as a moral issue, (for which I applaud you, by the way) the voters to which I refered specifically cited issues such as gay marriage and abortion, while many actually disagreed with Bush's economic and forein policy decisions. They just thought it was more important to keep the Bible in the lawbooks, which I see as a serious violation of freedom of religion. Wasn't the point to protect people of divergent faiths?

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